14 January 2011
Vman's call for help
If you have half a glass of rum to spare, please pour it into his PayPal account
To help him over the Hump, a few beers would do.
To help him over the Hump, a few beers would do.Half Speed.
Half Rubber.
God Speed.
And Redemption.
Yeah, tough talk can kill.
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"Wouldn't that be a despicably socialist thing to do?"
No. Stesaling it from someone who works and giving it to someone who has no earthy value is the standard socialist modus operandi. Giving money to someone because you want to is the way decent people do things.
No. Stesaling it from someone who works and giving it to someone who has no earthy value is the standard socialist modus operandi. Giving money to someone because you want to is the way decent people do things.
I just happen to think that no-one should have to beg, and thus think that a 'social' safety-net is a good thing. Yes, there will be people who mis-use it, we need to fine-tune the rules to exclude them. Begging for money just to go get drunk and party is not acceptable. Such people need to stand on their own two legs (not others groins).
End troll ;-)
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I just happen to think that no-one should be stolen from. And I just happen to think that if someone needs something, they should get off their halfmoons and get a fucking job.
A "social" safety net is theft. Theft is wrong. But if you're ok with it, send me your motorcycle. I don't want to have to beg for one.
A "social" safety net is theft. Theft is wrong. But if you're ok with it, send me your motorcycle. I don't want to have to beg for one.
The safety net should cover only the minima, food , drink, a roof over the head. I agree that everything else should be earned. Unfortunately some skivers 'earn' via petty crime.
And we already 'socialise' the cost of crime, inasmuch as honest you and I pay for a police force, jails, a justice system etc. Life would be cheaper without them, but I don't propose unfunding them, neither I think do you. Fines etc are sadly no way large enough so that criminals are paying for it.
We need a way to support those genuinely looking for the increasingly rare jobs (e.g. Blogger Demeur) but preventing the skivers exploiting the rest of us. I think we agree here.
So I won't send you any of my M/Cs as that would be above subsistence level, but you're perfectly welcome to come riding with me if ever over here. Acceptable compromise?
And we already 'socialise' the cost of crime, inasmuch as honest you and I pay for a police force, jails, a justice system etc. Life would be cheaper without them, but I don't propose unfunding them, neither I think do you. Fines etc are sadly no way large enough so that criminals are paying for it.
We need a way to support those genuinely looking for the increasingly rare jobs (e.g. Blogger Demeur) but preventing the skivers exploiting the rest of us. I think we agree here.
So I won't send you any of my M/Cs as that would be above subsistence level, but you're perfectly welcome to come riding with me if ever over here. Acceptable compromise?
"We need a way to support those genuinely looking for the increasingly rare jobs (e.g. Blogger Demeur) but preventing the skivers exploiting the rest of us. I think we agree here."
No. Not even a little.
The jobs are increasingly rare BECAUSE of the social programs. Fewer social programs, more jobs. End of discussion.
There have long been individuals willing to aid the truly destitute. Every catholic church in the US has a St Vincent De paul society, whose purpose is to catch those who fall through the cracks, feed them, help them pay their bills, and get them work so they can get back on their feet. In my church alone, hundreds of thousands of dollars are donated willingly, often by the same people that took advantage of the program in previous years. The charity, by the way, is not limited to Catholics, we got a muslim family back on it's feet early last year.
Social programs are good for one thing and one thing only: Creating a permanent class of useless lazy fucks.
THeft is wrong. Government mandated "Charity" is theft.
No. Not even a little.
The jobs are increasingly rare BECAUSE of the social programs. Fewer social programs, more jobs. End of discussion.
There have long been individuals willing to aid the truly destitute. Every catholic church in the US has a St Vincent De paul society, whose purpose is to catch those who fall through the cracks, feed them, help them pay their bills, and get them work so they can get back on their feet. In my church alone, hundreds of thousands of dollars are donated willingly, often by the same people that took advantage of the program in previous years. The charity, by the way, is not limited to Catholics, we got a muslim family back on it's feet early last year.
Social programs are good for one thing and one thing only: Creating a permanent class of useless lazy fucks.
THeft is wrong. Government mandated "Charity" is theft.
I certainly wouldn't want The One True Church(tm) or any other responsible for any social net. Too open to arbitrariness, IMHO.
They can't even run a boys' school over here without molesting the customers :-(
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They can't even run a boys' school over here without molesting the customers :-(
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